Re: Bug#798476: Returning to the requirement that Uploaders: contain humans
- Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 03:51:13 +0300
- From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: Bug#798476: Returning to the requirement that Uploaders: contain humans
On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 08:16:30PM -0400, gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:16:03 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 06:25:46PM -0400, gregor herrmann wrote:
> > > What I don't understand in the point of view of the "keep Uploaders"
> > > proponents: What does this information, whether correct or not,
> > > actually give others? Are they going to email or phone these persons
> > > privately when emails to the BTS or the maintainer/team list are
> > > ignored? And what happens if they ignore these communications as
> > > well?
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?bug-rev=on;include=severity:minor;include=tags:pending;maint=pkg-perl-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx#_2_5_5
> > These "Updating the <package> Uploaders list" bugs.
> > When the MIA team has determined that a person is MIA,
> > it can send bugs informing all packages where that person
> > is listed in Uploaders that the person is no longer active.
> Ok, that's a good example:
> So, when we (pkg-perl) get such a list of bug reports (or, which is
> less work, a single mail from the MIA team about XY being inactive)
> what happens is that
> - we probably know that already (but it's still good to have the
> offical confirmation)
> - we remove them from Uploaders in git
> - nothing else changes: the package will be uploaded when there's any
> reason for it (new release, bugfix) as before when XY was still
> mentioned in Uploaders
> Dropping the Uploaders field would mean that we save the work (which
> can be quite tedious when we have to add the right bug numbers to the
> right packages' changelog entry) without any other changes to the
> maintenance of the package.
But then the information who is currently part of pkg-perl is needed in
machine-readable form and displayed by tools like DDPO and tracker for:
1. being able to inform a team that a member is MIA and inform the team, and
2. being able to detect when the last team member is MIA
Policy equally applies to packages where point 2 is far more likely to
happen than for pkg-perl.
Autogenerating Uploaders like GNOME does  would be an alternative
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