Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system
- Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:48:59 +0200
- From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 01:57:08PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 01:44:00PM +0200, Maximilian Althaus wrote:
> > Okay, I understand! But I have the problem that the Debian 9 VM can not
> No, you don't. You already got told about ip -r. "route" and "ifconfig" are not
> installed per default anymore.
All packages shipped by Debian either don't require net-tools anymore, or
pull them in via dependency. If you wrote a custom script, you might need
to either migrate to ip or a friend (like, netstat -> ss), or install
net-tools. The latter has been deprecated since a long, long time, so the
time to finally pull the plug had to come sooner or later.
> > get an internet connection. This is because the network configuration
> > (/etc/network/interfaces) fail, because Debian 9.0 could not found a
> > device named eth0, but with Debian 8.8 with the same configuration I have
> eth0 will be kept on upgrades, but new installs get new interface names
> (that is good, that removed unpredictability if you add a new network card.)
Not sure how is it possible to argue that "eth0" is _less_ predictable than
ensp3 or wlxf81a671bcfae. If you replace a network card, all your network
settings go wrong. Same if you reconnect a removable card. Or upgrade your
kernel. Or, dist-upgrade. Or, in case of a VM, use a slightly different
command line. Or, on some hardware, on every boot. The random number after
that "ensp" or "wlxf" can be re-rolled unexpectedly -- hope you have an
out-of-band way to reach that machine (ilo and iDrac are not really
To fix this problem, you can:
ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules
Also it's worth noting that if you do rename interfaces on your own (kind of
a must if there's more than one of its type -- both eth0 vs eth1 or ensp42
vs ensp78 require documentation that's guaranteed to be misplaced while out0
vs lan0 are self-describing even to an outsider), in jessie this overruled
the above "predictable" rule, in stretch it apparently does not.
. At least popular ones -- there's a possibility something obscure has
slipped through, in which case, please install net-tools and report a bug.
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