Re: UMASK 002 or 022?
On 2017-06-30 12:05, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 11:56:37AM -0400, gwmfms6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ultimately, it wouldn't be as big a deal if it was possible to change
default umask for the gnome-session in Debian Stretch.
the fact that it's impossible for you, doesnt mean it's impossible for
sorry, but this had to be said, you are repeating this nonsense. if you
help changing this, try debian-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx or get paid
this list is for the development of debian, thanks.
When the average user cannot change the umask, it becomes a higher
priority that the default umask reflect everyday usage (which is what
this thread is about--the development of debian and discussing why
debian still uses a default whose rationale has arguably long past). The
statement you disparage has bearing on the discussion of the default as
the discussion is now of more concern considering things like this crop
Since you brought the issue up: other debian lists provided no help in
finding a workaround. I don't see you volunteering any info on how to
workaround the problem. So how do I know it's not impossible? I've
spoken with another developer elsewhere and he didn't know a fix. But
the statement you disparage was not asking for a workaround but was a
comment on the larger user base not having a mechanism for effecting
I don't feel your comments were warranted or helpful. The statement you
disparage is not "nonsense" for the average debian user. I imagine you
are much more skilled with computers than the average user. I don't want
my statements to upset or misrepresent and did not intend this. But
having input from someone who is not a developer per se can be helpful
and informative to discussions like this.
It strikes me that the community does not care about this issue, that
the "old" way of doing it is the preferred way even though its original
rationale has long since passed and is no longer relevant. And
apparently at least some view me as not knowledgeable enough to be
discussing this topic with you in this forum considering I do not know
how to work around the problem myself (but even if I did that would
still not address the larger subject of this thread).
So signing off. I'll leave my previous emails for the record in the hope
that they are given consideration by the community. I do appreciate
having the opportunity to be heard and the feedback received.