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Re: Re: Please add lzip support in the repository




Hi Guillem,

Guillem Jover wrote:

> On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 17:22:53 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 01:55:10PM +0200, Maria Bisen wrote:
> > > It's been drawn to my attention the topic included in this thread:
> > >
> > > https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2017-06/msg00084.html
> > >
> > > I've got the feeling that the distribution the thread talks about is
> > > precisely yours, Debian's. As stated there, giving support to lzip in
> > > Debian seems feasable and easy. Could it be possible, then, to add
> > > lzip support? : )
>
> I'm afraid this pretty much is not going to happen, besides being
> there no technical advantage at all (to the contrary), and given the
> multiple previous very obnoxious interactions with upstream and some
> of its supporters (not all of course), filled with FUD and extremely
> biased and invalid claims.
>
> > Please read the thread starting with
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/06/msg00173.html
>
> That thread started at
> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/06/threads.html#00173>
> and continued at
> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/07/threads.html#00377>
> and further at
> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/08/threads.html#00021>.
>
> Please also read the bug reports referenced.

I don't know how to read your strong emphasis in referring me to a discussion, somehow filled with personal opinions, where few issues are really answered and nothing is really achieved.

A year after that thread the following webpage was published:

http://www.nongnu.org/lzip/xz_inadequate.html

A refreshing and profound reading with confirmable results if you have access to formats specifications. The fact that the author of one of them is the one telling it doesn't mean the results weren't verifiable.

In any case, I was just asking if it was possible to have lzip support in Debian, considering there are people interested in having precisely that (such as Thomas Goirand and other people in that thread you advised me to read).

> > It is similar to the thread you've referenced, with the same person (the
> > software author) making the same arguments which are then turned down as
> > invalid.

> Indeed. And at this point, I'm starting to consider adding an entry of
> its own just to cover the lzip situation in the dpkg FAQ…

I wish I'm wrong, but I detect some irony or criticism in your message, and I don't think that only because I use lzip I deserve that kind of treatment. After carefully reading those threads, I've got the impression you don't seem to have an objective technical viewpoint regarding this issue. But please, do not involve me in what looks like a personal matter for you.

However, I appreciate a lot Christoph Bield' answer, saying that giving support to lzip could be time consuming; that is a reason I can understand, even if some people consider that giving that support could be easy.

Maria Bisen.